Last year Dara McAnulty, at just 16 years of age, won Non-Fiction Book of the Year at the British Book Awards. Coincidentally, that category was presented by us at The Cosmic Shambles Network, so today, as Dara’s second book, Wild Child, hits shelves he took time out from studying for his maths exam next week to come on the podcast to chat to Robin and Helen Czerski. They chat about nature, climate, optimism, birds, Oliver Sacks, Andrei Tarkovsky and much more! Support the podcast and hear extended editions by subscribing at patreon.com/bookshambles