***Run the Jewels are raw and so is the language in this episode*** Killer Mike and El-P return to Broken Record to discuss the creation of their fourth album, RTJ4, and the tumultuous world it was released into. Rick Rubin, who was present during some of the album's recording sessions at Shangri La, digs into the record's production and themes with the duo, calling the message and tone of the album "almost prophetic." They also discuss working with Pharrell and Zack de la Rocha and why they had to make a major change to a song after the album was already mastered. You can hear an extended cut of today's episode by subscribing to our YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/brokenrecordpodcast. We'll be off the next two weeks but will be posting two interviews to our YouTube channel while away. You can also head to our website to checkout past episodes and dig into our artist playlists: https://brokenrecordpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices