One of the things I feel super passionately about as someone who works with small business owners is that you can build a business that works for you and how your brain and your body work and not just do things cuz you see everyone else around you doing those things. In today's episode, I had an absolutely brilliant chat with Sara Tasker, who you might know online by her business name, Me and Orla. Sara runs a multi-six-figure business while dealing with multiple chronic illnesses, and we chat about how she's really consciously built a business that works around her illnesses and supports her in a way that a 9-5 just wouldn't do. We also chat about a whole bunch of mindset shifts that we've both had to make over the last 10 years. Sara's course, the Insta Retreat was one of the first online courses I ever took, and so I loved hearing about all the various ways that Sara makes money in her business, including through that course and what she is doing to grow her business while honoring the rest that she needs. Whether you have a chronic illness or not, this episode is a must-listen for small business owners.  Don't forget to check out Sara online and follow her on Instagram. And while you're at it, come and say hello to me on my Instagram page as well! Can't wait to connect with you. Check out Marketing Magic featured in today's episode  This episode was written and produced by me and edited by Lucy Lucraft. If you enjoyed this episode please leave a 5* rating and review!