In this episode I speak with Wesley Thomson, the Head of ESG for UK and Europe for the global real estate advisory firm Avison Young based out of London.   Wesley has over 17 years of experience in ESG and has advised Government, cities and large corporates across the globe on their decarbonisation journeys. The past 7 years specifically Wesley has been focused on global smart cities and the commercial real estate sector.    He is seen as one the industry’s leading international experts on ESG and has had an incredible career to date with much more ahead im sure.    Here are the highlights:  (01:51) So much to be done around ESG  (05:19) Commercial viability was the biggest barrier  (09:42) There is no silver bullet  (16:30) We have to keep investing in ESG  (19:49) We’re all in this together  (26:17) It’s all about adapting and staying relevant  (29:27) My biggest career risk was moving into real estate  Business of Building celebrates the normal and the regular; the inspiring risk taker; the dreamer in all of us and hear from those who have walked the path before us and dared to dream. We will hear their journey, their stories, and what they learned along the way.  So please subscribe or follow wherever you get your podcasts, and remember to leave a review so others can find us. This podcast is produced by The Podcast Boutique.