My first podcast interview! A lot has happened since I last released an episode, chief of which is that I am now in the Lowveld mountains volunteering at a gentle place called Nyalungu Afrikan Retreat. This space and its people have been exactly what I needed right now, providing life-affirming conversations, a chance to participate in an exciting venture, and time to breathe out the anxiety of the past few months. In this interview I chat with Luzuko, travelling artist and fellow volunteer, and Nick, our host here. We talk about our life journeys, our understanding of God, about ubuntu, and about the soul's journey. You can find Luzuko's Instagram profile here, and his Youtube account here. Find Nick's Instagram profile here, and Nyalungu Afrikan Retreat's profile here. Find out more about Nick and Nichole's vegan leather business through their website.  *** About me: My name is Sage Freda and I'm a storyteller and journeyer, currently setting out on some new adventures, travelling and volunteering across South Africa with my dog. I hope you'll come along for the ride! Also, I've launched a Patreon account! If you'd like to support this podcast, and the other projects I hope to start this year, check it out at https://www.patreon.com/sagefreda. Send me questions, comments, or voice messages at [email protected]. My website is www.sagefreda.com, or find me on social media: Instagram and Facebook. Cover art done by my talented sister, Hannah. Music by Lesfm on Pixabay.