The need to execute change in your organisation, either as proactive transformation or reactive to your market, has never been more demanding.  This is the real ‘new normal’.  How we frame and handle this, as humans, can make the difference between success and failure in the delivery of value from change and, importantly, in ensuring our good mental health. In a special episode to kick off season 3, Dave, Sjoukje and Rob go on an expedition with Erwin Visser, General Manager for Cloud Service Provider business at Microsoft Americas, and hear about his recent adventure climbing Mount Everest!  They discover what this visceral experience has taught him about setting purpose and going on a journey and we unpack his five lessons for driving results from change as we climb... TLDR:04:05 T&C’s are confusing!06:03 Cloud conversation with Erwin Visser44:35 Clear purpose and benefit drives change50:41 Moving to Tampa! GuestErwin Visser:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/erwin-visser-932313/ HostsDave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sjoukje Zaal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjoukjezaal/Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ ProductionMarcel Van Der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-van-der-burg-99a655/Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/ SoundBen Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/