In a first technology convergence, physics came together with engineering to produce an array of astonishing new technologies: radios, telephones, televisions, aircraft, radar, nuclear power, computers, the Internet and a host of still evolving digital tools.  Today we are on the cusp of a new convergence... This week, Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Susan Hockfield, President Emerita, MIT about how biology is now coming together with engineering to create a wave of next generation technologies.  They talk about the evolution of this new technology, exciting initial use cases and the challenges of industrialising these new machines.  We also talk about how LLM's might also learn the language of biology and drive further breakthroughs. TLDR:01:47 Will virtual realities ever really be a reality? 05:29 Cloud conversation with Susan Hockfield 44:30 Biology and LLM's48:28 MIT Energy Initiative external advisor conference! Further readingThe Age of Living Machines: How Biology Will Build the Next Technology Revolution: https://www.amazon.nl/-/en/Susan-Hockfield/dp/0393634744 GuestSusan Hockfield, President Emerita, MIT: https://www.mitcnc.org/susanhockfield/ HostsDave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sjoukje Zaal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjoukjezaal/Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ ProductionMarcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-van-der-burg-99a655/Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/ SoundBen Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/