In our first episode with an international guest, Dr Jen Frahm (from Melbourne, Australia), gives her amazing insights to change.  Jen is a highly experienced change practitioner (and Ph.D. Dr no less) and we learned so much from this conversation.  Jen talks about loving the messiness of change, why being a 'slashie' is so hard, her advice for new change practitioners and leaders and why she thinks, as change practitioners, we need to get better at sharing. If you do start sharing please @ her at @JenFrahm and use our hashtag #CreatingChange You can find more about Jen here; For those working in change: https://conversationsofchange.com.au/   For those leading change https://drjenfrahm.com/   LinkedIn   LinkedIn company page   Facebook page   Twitter   Amazon for book