Steph speaks with gay dad, husband and business owner Jonathan Kirkby about surrogacy and fatherhood in the lead up to Father’s Day.     Jonathan explains the complicated process of surrogacy, discrimination he’s experienced, and what he would like to see change in people's understanding of surrogacy. They also discuss the impact of becoming a dad on Jonathan’s relationship and lifestyle.    Steph and Jonathan talk about the 50/50 split of parenting with his partner, dad guilt and how the visibility of gay dads is changing. Jonathan finishes with an epic tale of a vomit and diarrhea filled nightmare flight - a right of passage for all parents right?    Jonathan’s Communication Agency Instinct PR Jonathan’s Instagram Steph’s Instagram For excellent Father’s Day gifts, visit Don’t Buy Her Flowers See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.