Rob and Lloyd talk with Kellie Webster, mentor and author of the children's books "Rebecca's Trick" and "Alexander's Trick". She talks about how the books came to be and the importance of teaching our children and grandchildren which voices we can and cannot trust. She testifies that some of the voices we can trust come in the form of ancestors who act as guardian angels for us. You can pick up Kellie's books and other valuable materials from Life Changing Services here. Contact us at [email protected] to let us know about the successes and challenges you are having as fathers and grandfathers. Please take a moment to rate and review the podcast or leave a message at the link below. Thank you! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/fatherswhofight/message