Here’s Part 2 of our Season Finale: Revisiting Ego & Essence. To end our season, we have a deep and meaningful conversation with enneagram legends Russ Hudson and Mario Sikora on these often used, often misunderstood concepts.  Lee Fields joins the Fathoms crew for this conversation, which always makes us better.  [2:00] How can we move forward with these terms despite the issues?  [13:05] Ego & Essence as bypassing [19:05] It’s about the process, not a destination [24:00]...

It’s here! Part 1 of our season finale: Revisiting Ego & Essence. To end our season, we have a deep and meaningful conversation with enneagram legends Russ Hudson and Mario Sikora on these often used, often misunderstood concepts.  Lee Fields joins the Fathoms crew for this conversation, which always makes us better.  [1:00] A quick recap of this season [5:30] We talk about (and cringe a bit) our Season 1 episode on Ego & Essence [12:30] Lindsey’s thoughts about the first episode as a...

Today we debrief our three-episode series on trauma. If you haven’t listened to those interviews with Sharon K. Ball, Dr. B, and Miles Adcox, be sure to check them out! We also talk about our next episode, where we revisit the concepts of ego and essence. In that episode we’re joined by enneagram legends Mario Sikora and Russ Hudson!  [2:00] Reflecting on our conversation with Sharon K. Ball, including her 3 m’s: movement, meaningful connections, mindfulness [5:20] Reflecting on our...

Today we finish our series of conversations on trauma and personhood with Miles Adcox. He is the Chairman and Owner of Onsite, an internationally-known emotional wellness lifestyle brand that delivers life-changing personal growth workshops, digital mental health master classes, emotionally smart leadership retreats, and residential emotional wellness and trauma treatment. Miles’ work at Onsite has been featured on 20/20, Good Morning America, New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Dr. Phil...

We continue our series on trauma and personhood with another conversation with Dr. Kristin Beasley. Dr. B is a clinical psychologist who specializes in trauma and early childhood development. Dr. B helps us clarify terms such as “victim” and “victimhood.” She provides practical insight on how to more compassionately work with those who have experienced trauma and is a wealth of wisdom on cultivating resilience.  [1:00] What is victimhood?  [3:40] The difference between states and....

In this first episode on trauma, we interview Sharon K. Ball. Licensed therapist and enneagram professional who specializes in trauma and the enneagram. Sharon is the author of Reclaiming You: Using the Enneagram to Move from Trauma to Resilience.  [1:10] Abram asks Sharon for her “top strength in her Myers-briggs finder” (?) [2:00] Clarifying some terms: trauma and resilience [4:15] The 4 Types of Trauma: Chronic, Insidious, Acute, & Complex [9:30] Big T vs. little t trauma [12:00] How...

In this episode, we reflect upon our recent conversation with singer/songwriter Andy Squyres. If you haven't listened to that episode, go check it out and then come back and reflect with us. We look forward to our next topic, trauma and personhood. Andy’s Instagram post that inspired our conversation: https://www.instagram.com/p/CgUkgrYOn6M/  Follow Andy’s work at https://andysquyres.com/ and listen to his music!  — Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at...

In this episode, we’re joined by singer/songwriter Andy Squyres (or “song doula” to Linz). Andy is a brilliant creative and a deep thinker who challenges our assumptions about the enneagram and the broader self help world. Andy is familiar with the enneagram but by no means a practitioner. He’s the perfect guest to share much needed perspective about this work we care about so much. His observations and critiques are important for all who use the enneagram. Stick around to the end of this...

Wrapping up our mini-series on aging and personhood, the Fathoms hosts reflect upon our episodes with the wonderful and wise Clare Loughrige. They also look ahead to our upcoming conversation with poet/musician Andy Squyres, who has some major and important critiques of the enneagram. Join our Marco Polo Sharecast: https://onmarcopolo.com/sharecast/dIT4N10HbBKn — Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.” — Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore,...

In this episode, we have the second of our 2 part conversation with enneagram author and teacher Clare Loughrige. Lindsey talks with Clare about the aging process and how it impacts the dynamics of personhood, especially the “Third Act” of life. Stick around to the end of this one, as Clare provides a specific encouragement for each type and a profound meditation on our futures.  [0:40] The most productive years of our lives…it’s later than you think [6:05] On fear about growing older [16:40]...

In this episode, we have the first of an incredible 2 part conversation with enneagram author and teacher Clare Loughrige. We talk to Clare about the aging process and how it impacts the dynamics of personhood, especially the “Third Act” of life. Have a listen and be on the lookout for part 2 of this series later this week. [1:40] How Western culture exalts youthfulness, and what to make of this in light of the enneagram’s popularity.  [4:30] The reduction of the enneagram to listicles and...

In this episode, the Fathoms hosts reflect upon our previous two episodes focused on chronic illness. If you haven’t listened to our conversations with Brook Gurrad and K.J. Ramsey, stop what you’re doing right now and have a listen. The hosts also ask for your help on an upcoming episode, and introduce our next topic we’re exploring in this season.  [1:05] Our insights gained and reflections on chronic illness and personhood.  [8:00] Implications for chronic illness and our enneagram...

In this episode, the Fathoms co-hosts, are joined by Lee Fields and Milton Stewart to celebrate Fathoms’ 100th episode and to announce and exciting new partnership with the IEA as temporary hosts of the International Enneagram Association Podcast for this year’s global conference. Listen as they all share what this year’s theme, “Unite & Ignite,” mean to them within the Enneagram community and what they are most looking forward to at the conference. “I love the Enneagram because it’s a...

We continue the conversation on chronic illness and personhood with our friend, the brilliant author and therapist, K.J. Ramsey. K.J. offers profound and practical wisdom on suffering and chronic illness, and she's ennea-fluent. Her books include: This Too Shall Last: Finding Grace When Suffering LingersThe Lord is My Courage: Stepping Through the Shadows of Fear to the Voice of LoveBook of Common Courage [1:45] What K.J. had for breakfast this morning. [2:30] Linz nerds out with KJ on all...

Interview | Chronic Illness: When Health Means Standing Still with Brooke Gurrad In this episode, we interview Brooke Gurrad of The Bonus Years Podcast. Brooke is an important voice in telling the story of those who live with chronic illness. She has profound wisdom to share about the dynamics of personhood for chronically ill persons and how to see and live as whole persons when life doesn’t go as planned.  [1:00] Brooke’s favorite memory of Lindsey  [3:00] A bit about The Bonus Years...

Reflections | Race: The Bypassed and The Bypassing Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagramFollow Abram: @integratedenneagramFollow Creek: @_creekmoreFollow Drew: @typetrailenneagramFollow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm

In this episode, we interview Dr. Deborah Egerton (Dr. E). Dr. E is a Diversity, Equity, & Anti-racism Specialist, Author, Executive Coach, Keynote Speaker, and Culture Transformation & Leadership Development Expert. Dr. E. brings all kinds of brilliance and new insights on the enneagram  [1:40] When’s the last time Dr. E’s had a good belly laugh?   [6:30] About Dr. E’s book Know Justice, Know Peace [10:50] Dr. E’s perspective as a Black woman in the enneagram space [16:40] On...

In this episode, we continue our series on race and the enneagram and interview Chichi Agorom, author of the brilliant book, The Enneagram for Black Liberation.  [0:45] What’s energizing Chichi right now?  [3:00] The importance of considering the collective, not just the individual, when using the enneagram [7:35] A bit about Chichi’s Nigerian background [9:10] What’s challenging about being from a collectivist culture [11:00] The difference between individualism and individuality [14:00]...

In this episode, we interview consultant, author, and enneagram teacher Danielle Fanfair. Danielle is full of wisdom and possesses a fierce compassion in exploring some of the more challenging aspects of race and personality.  [1:15] A bit about Danielle’s enneagram certification program and why she developed it.  [8:45] The gaps Danielle seeks to fill in her enneagram work [12:45] How Danielle fosters safe and brave spaces in her work [15:30] On the barriers persons of color face & how...

In this episode, we interview Jessica Dickson. Jessica is an enneagram teacher and host of the Antiracist Enneagram Podcast. Jessica’s wisdom on socialization and its impact on the enneagram is profound. Enjoy!  2:35 A bit about Jessica’s work with clients 3:30 A bit about Jessica’s podcast: The Antiracist Enneagram Podcast 6:30 Coco, Encanto, and being human 8:50 The concept of socialization and its impact 19:30 The nervous system and the enneagram 21:20 How to help others become aware of...

Reflections | Culture & the Enneagram Today we’re debriefing our last two episodes on the overlays of culture and the enneagram, sharing what we learned, and setting up what’s coming next in season 4!  0:40 Why we aren’t a morning show 2:33 What surprised us about our conversations with Maria Jose and Chin Ai.  8:47 Contemplating the interplay between cultural influences and enneagram style 13:47 What’s next in our exploration of dynamics of personhood? What are our hopes for you and for...

In this interview, we interview enneagram teacher Chin Ai Oh. Chin Ai lives and words in Malaysia and has a lot of wisdom to share on expanding our cultural fluency when using the enneagram. 2:00 Who is Chin Ai?  4:00 The last time Chin Ai ate Durian.  6:00 Chin Ai’s enneagram origin story 10:45 How Chin Ai integrates the enneagram into her career working in FinTech 14:40 Differences working with the enneagram in North America vs. Malaysia 19:20 What North Americans get wrong about the...

Maria Jose Munita - @mjmunita mjmunita.com Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagramFollow Abram: @integratedenneagramFollow Creek: @_creekmore Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagramFollow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm

In this conversational episode, Abram, Creek, and Lindsey discuss the prototype, archetype, and stereotype expressions of personality, and how it connects to our Season 4 theme: dynamics of personhood.  12:45 Prototype - What comes to mind, what we mean 14:10 Archetype - What comes to mind, what we mean 17:45 Stereotype - What we mean & how it harms.  22:10 Thoughts on avoiding stereotypes 27:40 On the pitfalls on relying on subtypes & wings too heavily 30:30 What do we practically do...