In this episode, Kim interviews former evangelical pastor Brian Recker and discusses his journey of self-discovery amid political shifts during Donald Trump's rise. Brian reflects on leaving his pastoral role during the COVID-19 pandemic, reevaluating his beliefs, and advocating for LGBTQ+ rights within Christianity. This episode emphasizes authenticity and embracing diversity in religious contexts.  Here's a sneak peek into what they discuss: Brian's transformation and self-discovery journey Advocacy for LGBTQ+ rights within Christianity and efforts to foster inclusivityImportance of creating inclusive spiritual environments where individuals can authentically express themselves without judgment or exclusionChallenges faced by Brian after leaving the pastorate Evaluating beliefs and their impact with Byron Katie's four questions Emphasis on authenticity and uncertainty in spirituality over theological rigidity About Brian Recker: About Brian: Brian Recker, a former evangelical pastor for over eight years, transitioned from fundamentalism after growing up in a Baptist home and attending Bob Jones University. Moving into mainstream evangelicalism felt progressive compared to his upbringing. Brian later pastored a multi-site church on the North Carolina coast but never felt fully comfortable in the evangelical movement. It took almost a decade for him to realize that his evolution was not complete, and leaving fundamentalism was only the beginning of his spiritual journey. After spending several years quietly wrestling with where his faith would land, he began speaking publicly on Instagram, where he found out that many people were thinking the same thoughts he was. After quickly gaining 1000,000 followers from his unique, compassionate, yet down-to-earth communication style, he started a podcast, "Sacred Counsel," offering pastoral wisdom to people in their journeys of evolving spirituality. Brian has a Master of Arts in Ministry from Lancaster Bible College and has four children. Connect: www.brianrecker.com  IG: @berecker