“The male prison population in the United States is about 15% psychopaths. So if, if you’re a warden and you work all day with prisoners, and then at the end of the day you go to some award ceremony honoring local CEOs, you’re probably interacting with a similar number of psychopaths at each event." Jack McCullough – President of CFO Leadership Council and 26-time CFO. Jack MCcullough’s background gives him an unprecedented perspective on financial leadership. Having started hist career at Big Four audit firm KPMG, he subsequently served as a CFO for 26 different companies, often in a part-time or interim role, working with about 35 CEOs. In his words “several geniuses, a handful of lunatics, and two or three who were both. But I learned from each person and became a more effective leader.” In this episode Jack McCullough reveals: How to work with Psychopath CEOs  Mental health and finance and overcoming difficult leaders  The importance of personal brand-building for CFOs and FP&A analysts How Jack invented the phrase “CF-No” in 1984 Why FP&A professionals and CFOs need to build their brand today The things that CFOs most want from their FP&A leaders His most strategic finance moment – or how COVID transformed his  business Mentoring in finance and the power of being mentored by Gen Z talent  Why he headlines his finance conferences with Guns n’ Roses and AC DC  Who would he most like to meet   His most manual processes ever The surprising two traits that CFOs must achieve today to have any chance of success  How to become a CFO Episode Links Books by Jack McCullough: The Psychopathic CEO: An Executive Survival Guide: Jack McCullough Secrets of Rockstar CFOs: Jack McCullough The CFO Leadership Council Watch on YouTube Follow Jack McCullough on Linkedin Follow Paul Barnhurst on LinkedIn  Follow Datarails on LinkedIn