This episode focuses on two passionate timber engineers and educators, Jon Shanks, and Lisa Ottenhaus. If you’ve ever met Jon or Lisa, you would know that they’re passionate about mountain biking, trail running, and really all things outdoors. What you probably didn’t know is that Lisa has been living with Multiple Sclerosis for over 13 years. Lisa doesn’t tend to make a big deal of it, because generally, things were ‘fine’... until they weren’t. In early 2022, Jon got a phone got call from Lisa explaining that the wheelchair clock is ticking and that she better make use of those legs while she can. And that’s when Jon came up with the idea to run the Cape 2 Cape great walk in WA, 123 km this coming September, and raise funds for MS research.  Listen to the episode, as Lisa explains how there’s no better way to ‘stick it to MS’, than to go for a really long run together with a friend and raise money to research better treatments (or even a prevention/cure). To donate or simply know more about Jon & Lisa’s run please visit: Do It For MS - We are running Cape 2 Cape! If you would like to join Jon & Lisa for a period during their Cape 2 Cape run, please email Jon at [email protected]