If your goal is to get a job, sure, you can stick with informational interviews. But if you're after a fulfilling career that pays really well, then you must do things differently than the rest of the world. The internet and self-proclaimed job experts have been chanting the mantra of informational interviews as the go-to solution for career change. But over the years, we've discovered that these interviews can actually throw up more roadblocks than solutions. In general, we've never been big fans of following the crowd, and that remains the same when it comes to informational interviews. In this episode, Scott dives into why we're not big proponents of this approach. Instead, he'll introduce you to a game-changer that will bring you much closer to your career goals: test-driving conversations. What you'll learn The limitations of informational interviews The importance of experimenting and staying open to self-discovery Why test-driving conversations is a more effective and authentic approach than informational interviews The step-by-step process of test-driving conversations   Our book, Happen To Your Career: An Unconventional Approach To Career Change and Meaningful Work, is now available on audiobook! Visit  happentoyourcareer.com/audible to order it now! Visit happentoyourcareer.com/book for more information or buy the print or ebook here! Want to chat with someone on the team about your situation? Schedule a conversation   Free Resources What career fits you? Join our free 8 Day Mini Course to figure it out! Career Change Guide - Learn how high-performers discover their ideal career and find meaningful, well-paid work without starting over.   Related Episodes Designing Career Experiments and Testing New Careers (Spotify / Apple Podcasts) Stuck in a Career You're Unhappy With? Fear Of Taking Risks Could Be Keeping You There (Spotify / Apple Podcasts)