Are we working hard enough? Or are we hardly working? In this episode, Anna interviews Grace Beverley, CEO of two wildly successful Gen-Z companies, about the paradox of modern work. Grace Beverley's book, Working Hard, Hardly Working: How to achieve more, stress less and feel fulfilled, is out now: https://amzn.to/3mVjCWc **AD: Thank you to our sponsor, Wild. Go to Wild today and get yourself this natural, refillable deodorant that genuinely works. You can order by going to wearewild.com and you’ll get 20% off your first order when you use code “ISTHISWORKING” at checkout.** 💌 Get in touch with the show! We're @isthis_working on Twitter and you can email us on [email protected] See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.