In this episode, Jennie sits down with Max Lucado, a beloved pastor and author. Their conversation delves into Max's extensive ministry experience and his reflections on faith, grace, and the story of Jacob from the Bible, emphasizing God's relentless love and forgiveness. The discussion highlights the universal struggle to accept and believe in God's grace, especially when confronted with our own imperfections and failures. This episode is a great reminder that grace can transform lives and cultivate a desire for holiness. MAIN POINTS: 0:31 Jennie introduces Max Lucado3:17 Max Lucado's background and love for the church5:12 Introduction of Max Lucado's book, "God Never Gives Up on You"5:46 Max Lucado explains the story of Jacob10:51 Jennie and Max discuss the concept of grace21:04 Max Lucado prays for listeners to understand and embrace God's grace HELPFUL LINKS: God Never Gives Up on You by Max LucadoThe Grace Awakening by Charles SwindollJoin the newsletterSign up for texts from Jennie and Team CONNECT ON SOCIALS: Instagram | YouTube | Facebook | TikTok | Pinterest