Sofie talks to Aubrey Gordon about her book What We Don't Talk About When We Talk About Fat, her podcast Maintenance Phase, becoming un-anonymous, talking into microphones, self deception, f*****g up hard, consensus based decisions, change, anger, and her childhood bathroom scales. Content Warning: COVID, fatphobia, diet culture, trauma, discomfort, racism, transphobia, harassment, misogyny, white supremacist movements, homophobia, death threats, mental health issues What We Don't Talk About When We Talk About Fat https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/645819/what-we-dont-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-fat-by-aubrey-gordon/ Maintenance Phase: http://maintenancephase.com/ Produced by Dave Pickering Sofie Hagen online: Twitter: @SofieHagen Facebook: facebook.com/sofiehagen.komiker Web: sofiehagen.com Instagram: @sofiehagendk Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/sofiehagen)