Have you ever noticed that no one ever asks President Donald Trump follow up questions in interviews? Well, that’s exactly what US-based Australian journalist Jonathan Swan did in what has been declared ‘the greatest Trump interview ever.’ Jessie recaps. Also, why should anyone have kids? After watching Mike Birbiglia’s Netflix special, Jessie’s thinking it sounds like a terrible idea. Will Holly and Mia manage to convince her otherwise? Plus, are we cancelling Ellen Degeneres for not being nice? We discuss.  LINKS Trump’s interview with Jonathan Swan… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaaTZkqsaxY Mike Birbiglia’s Netflix Special, The New One… https://www.netflix.com/title/81062293 RECCOS Holly- Brooklyn on Stan… https://play.stan.com.au/programs/2677120 And Begin Again on Stan… https://play.stan.com.au/programs/376190 And Normal People on Stan… https://play.stan.com.au/programs/56885 CREDITS Hosts: Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright, and Jessie Stephens Producer: Lem Zakharia CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at [email protected]   Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia Out Loud is a podcast by Mamamia-  https://www.mamamia.com.au/author/mamamiaoutloud/