Mick West joins us to talk about trying to solve UFO mysteries while keeping his cool. Mick is the author of Escaping the Rabbit Hole: How to Debunk Conspiracy Theories Using Facts, Logic and Respect. He hosts a leading site for analysis of weird aerial phenomenon called Metabunk. He also maintains the site "Contrail Science" which tries to resolve the pseudoscience of "Chemtrails." In the intro there are some clips about NASA and US Congressional looks at the "UAP" phenomenon. I will argue that UAP is just a UFOmism and that the general public is largely unaware these are all just the same old things driven by the same old limitations of human perception and cognition. I mention Jason Colavito in the intro. It's worth checking out his historical take on this modern rebranding. Also mentioned in the episode was the sad (probably psychogenic) syndrome known as "Morgellons Disease." I wanted to include a link for the curious. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices