This episode comes with a warning - it feels necessary because we feel we fall a bit flat. Not that every episode needs to be lol worthy, but this one is a bit like two old ducks having a tough old time on the parenting front who very much needed to fester somewhat into their issues. So join us if you dare (lol) for the debrief on life - the current trials and tribulations involving the kids and husbands, social media and kids with phones in general (*quivering in our boots as to how to handle*), dealing with the icy aftermath with your partner following a barney, knowing when you're 'done' having kids and naturally a bit about food, specifically pies. Thanks for listening to our sub-par banter and we hope you'll join us again after this (!).