Dr. Carlos Abril joins us in the podcast today to talk about the current role - and the potential future impact - of colleges and universities in moving music education forward.  He has a clear and cogent vision for the kind of music educators he’d like to inspire and empower - those who become leaders in the field and agents of change in music ed. Join us for this thoughtful and hopeful conversation on how the academy can be integral to transforming music education at the undergraduate and graduate levels (with K-12 thrown in, for good measure).