The Franciscan tradition of Catholicism teaches about the interconnectedness of all beings and seeing the divine in ourselves and all of creation. So, what do meditation and mindful self-compassion look like from a Franciscan point of view? In this episode, Hans Baars shares his insights and experiences as a former Dutch Franciscan Priest now living in Australia. We discuss how different languages can inform our understanding of these ideas as well as his own experiential approach to spiritual practice.