Ross shares his talk from SkeptiCamp LA, looking at how practitioners of non-science wall themselves off from criticism. See why an individual or organization might ignore its critics, attack, cut ties, or elect to positively engage.

Carrie tells Ross about UFO speaker Caroline Cory, who claims to bring “as much science as possible” to the study of paranormal topics like aliens, telepathy, information downloads, and mental health. Plus, Drew takes a videography class from "Mr. M."

As MaxFunDrive 2024 comes to a close, join Ross and Carrie as they announce a new show goal, a live show happening TONIGHT, and preview a segment from Jordan, Jessie, Go! in which Carrie and Blaire Erskine flex their skills as religious goofballs.