Episodes
Alain was interviewed by our friend Anthony for a Brazilian urbanism blog called Caos Planejado. They discussed Brazilian cities, municipal financing, what it was like to live in NYC in the time of Jane Jacobs and Robert Moses, how urban planners' thinking has evolved over the course of Alain's long career, and lots more. Transcript & photos: https://devonzuegel.com/post/owd-5-the-evolution-of-urban-utopias-guest-episode-from-caos-planejado --- Send in a voice message:...
Published 07/10/21
Mobility is central to living in every city. In this episode, we discussed how different communities tackle the question of transportation, and how culture shapes how different transport technologies get adopted. As usual, the conversation traveled far and wide across the globe. We talked about Bolivian intersections, Japanese trains, French jets, Thai motorbikes, German cars, Swiss crosswalks, and more. Transcript & photos:...
Published 12/23/20
Every place has some dirty secrets, even Disney World. We all have to get rid of waste somehow! So in this episode, the Bertauds and I discuss methods of sanitation and waste management from around the world, and how these hidden systems shape our cities. It also includes one of my favorite stories I've heard from the Alain and Marie-Agnes — but I won't spoil it for you. Let's just say it includes appendicitis, a dwindling supply of Novocaine, and a Yemeni surgeon who'd never operated on "a...
Published 08/15/20
Alain and Marie-Agnes raised three children while living their nomadic lifestyle. So in this episode, we dug into how their role as parents shaped how they experience cities. Join us as we roam from Bangkok to Guadalajara, Sana'a to Paris, and Port-au-Prince to NYC! Transcript & photos: https://devonzuegel.com/owd-2-vanished-in-guadalajara --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/order-without-design/message
Published 07/08/20
Transcript · Audio · Photos · https://devonzuegel.com/owd-1-tea-time-in-yemen This first episode is an introduction to the Bertauds. I was going to title it "Keeping Up With The Indiana Joneses", but I was advised against it. In this first conversation, we traveled all around the globe for a whirlwind tour of the adventurous life they've led together. We started in Tunisia to hear about Marie-Agnes' childhood, then hopped over to neighboring Algeria, where Marie-Agnes and Alain first met....
Published 07/08/20
Welcome to Order Without Design, a new podcast I'm starting the most interesting couple I know: Alain and Marie-Agnes Bertaud.  This project is an extension of their book, Order Without Design: How Markets Shape Cities. With its focus on economic theory, you might not realize that this book is the product of the adventurous life these two have shared together. This podcast series is my excuse to hear and share those stories. Join the three of us on a journey to the Bertauds' past lives in...
Published 04/21/20