With much of the world’s media focusing on the language of the final text at COP 28 to determine the success or failure of the COP and Dr Sultan’s presidency, Tom, with the help of friend of the show and High Level Climate Champion for COP 26, Nigel Topping; and H.E. Razan Al Mubarak, UN Climate Change High Level Champion for COP 28, take a different lens on what has been unfolding at COP 28 aside from the phase out/down controversy. NOTES AND RESOURCES H.E. Razan Al Mubarak, UN Climate Change High-Level Champion from the COP28 Presidency LinkedIn | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | Website   Nigel Topping, Member of the Climate Change Committee (CCC) / Non-executive director of the UK Infrastructure Bank (UKIB) Twitter | LinkedIn    Listen to O+O regularly? Please fill out our 10 minute survey - We want to hear from you!   Learn more about the Paris Agreement.   It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective   Please follow us on social media! Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn