This week, the hosts welcome Hannah Ritchie, Deputy Editor at Our World in Data and a Senior Researcher at the University of Oxford as our guest and discuss her book ‘Not the End of the World, How We Can Be the First Generation to Build a Sustainable Planet’.   In this compelling episode, join the hosts and special guest Hannah as they delve into the intricate dynamics of data, cautious optimism, and doom narratives within the climate community. Don't miss out as we explore the crucial role these elements play in shaping perspectives and driving action. Plus, Hannah treats us to an insightful reading from her remarkable work, offering a poignant addition to our discussion. Tune in for a thought-provoking dialogue you won't want to miss! Music comes from Fran Lusty with her pop-folk ballad ‘I Hate My Job’. Fran is an Indie-folk singer-songwriter born in Cambridge with Norwegian roots, see her pages below to listen to more of her soul-stirring nature inspired songs. NOTES AND RESOURCES   GUEST Hannah Ritchie, Deputy Editor at Our World in Data and a Senior Researcher at the University of Oxford Sustainability by numbers | Our World in Data | Twitter (X) You can buy her book here: Not the End of the World, How We Can Be the First Generation to Build a Sustainable Planet   MUSIC Fran Lusty Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | Youtube   People of the State of California v. Big Oil / The text of the lawsuit is here   Our Story of Nature, Deep Dive Series Website   Learn more about the Paris Agreement.   It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective   Please follow us on social media! Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn