Leadership. It’s a topic that’s dear to me. It's all over the internet. It's trendy. There are inspirational examples of it all around.  And yet, being an excellent leader isn’t something that’s easy to learn.  Which is why I wanted to speak with leadership expert Minter Dial, “an enjoyer of the messiness of life”. He’s a storyteller who’s on a mission to elevate the debate and connect the dots between ideas and people.  For Minter, reality is all about accepting the imperfections. “Putting your hands in the dirt and the mud is part of life as well,” he explains. “And so, when it's all about being dainty and perfect and clean and performing, you may succeed for a while. But one day the Piper will come to call…” Here are some takeaways from our conversation – all about how to become a better leader by working on yourself – which you can listen to in full on my People&Digital podcast. Or, if you’re short on time, I’ve also condensed all my key tips – FAQ style – in a summarized, quick-read version right here. Useful links: Take the quiz! Which book do you need to boost your digital transformation in times of crisis?Sign up for the Digital LettersEvery week,  you’ll find a new episode in your favorite podcast player to feed your thoughts. In the meantime, if you want to discuss, ask me a question or react to a topic, I’m easy to find on ... Linkedin , Instagram, Facebook , Twitter