On this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas is joined by author, consultant, and advocate for post-trauma awareness, Bob Delaney. They discuss the profound impact of Bob’s time doing undercover work to infiltrate mafia crime families. He experienced intense shame and guilt from deceiving the people he was investigating, despite believing that the work was necessary.  He and Thomas discuss how Bob overcame the isolation and trauma of repressing these emotions, and how society can better serve the first responders who endure so much trauma in their lines of work. Bob emphasizes the importance of having outlets to express emotions rather than repressing them and the need to improve attunement and relational capacities between these workers and the people they’re serving. ✨ Become a member of Thomas Hübl’s membership community, The Mystic Café, and join us for an all-new 10-Day Challenge: Cultivating Space. 👉 https://mysticcafeonline.com/space  During each day of the challenge, Thomas will share teachings, guided meditations, and practices focused on cultivating spaciousness individually and in community. Learn how to turn crises into wisdom and grow your resilience, agency, and ability to respond to an increasingly complex world. ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Bob Delaney is an author and an advocate for post-trauma awareness. He has worked with the military, law enforcement, firefighters, first responders, healthcare workers, and many others by providing post-trauma awareness and education. His contributions to PTSD awareness and support to military officials and their families have been recognized with honors and proclamations from many, including President Barack Obama and senior-ranking military leaders. He consults globally on leadership, resiliency, trauma, and self-care. ✨ Connect with Bob Delaney here: 👉 http://www.delaneyconsultants.com/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing