On this episode of Point of Relation, Thomas is joined by humanitarian, writer, and social entrepreneur Zainab Salbi. They discuss the difficult nature of working in the humanitarian space to address the many injustices that people, particularly women, face worldwide. Zainab explains how being open and vulnerable about her own traumatic experiences gave her the compassion and inspiration needed to tell women’s stories and work to end oppression, systemic violence, and climate change. In a line of work that is so emotionally taxing, she’s learned firsthand how crucial it is to resource yourself with the same kindness you show to others and care for your own emotional well-being. As she puts it, “You can’t give out of an empty well.” Trigger Warning: This episode includes discussion of sexual assault and violence against women. If you anticipate this topic to be too triggering for you to hear about and effectively process on your own, we recommend you choose not to listen. ✨ Join Thomas for a free, live event -  Cultivating Space: How To Turn Crises Into Wisdom in an Increasingly Complex World. 👉 https://www.mysticcafeonline.com/space  Thomas will share new teachings on cultivating space and nurturing wisdom, resilience, and loving-kindness in an increasingly complex world. He'll explore how to apply spirituality and mystical principles to everyday life - including challenging or overwhelming aspects that are seemingly "unfixable." If you're looking for fresh insight into difficult issues in your life or the world, we invite you to join us! ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  Zainab Salbi is a humanitarian, a writer and a social entrepreneur who has dedicated her life to women’s rights and freedom. She is the co-founder of Daughters for Earth and Women for Women International, a humanitarian organization dedicated to women survivors of wars. She is the author of several books, including Freedom Is an Inside Job; Owning our Darkness and Our Light to Change Ourselves and the World. She is also the Executive Editor and Host of several shows including Through Her Eyes with Yahoo News, and The Zainab Salbi Project with Huffington Post. She is a Young Global Leader with the World Economic Forum and serves on the Boards of Vital Voices, International Refugee Assistance Program (IRAP), and Synergos International. ✨ Connect with Zainab Salbi here: 👉 https://zainabsalbi.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl #thomashuebl #collectivetrauma #healing