We take the long view on the success of Emmanuel Macron and the rise of Marine Le Pen, unpack an EU move that could cut funds to Hungary for failing to uphold the rule of law and dive into the impact of climate change on Spanish politics. [1:43] POLITICO's Nicholas Vinocur, a longtime follower of French politics, joins Andrew Gray to give his take on Macron's victory in France's presidential election and the gains made by far-right leader Le Pen — and what both may mean for Europe. (Nick mentions this story from our reporters on EU hopes and fears around Macron. And you can read more French election coverage here.) [9:12] POLITICO's Matthew Karnitschnig and Lili Bayer join the panel to reflect on the defeat of another populist right-wing European leader: Slovenia's Trump-loving Prime Minster Janez Janša. They also discuss the European Commission's unprecedented move to trigger a process that could cut EU funds to Hungary over rule-of-law breaches. [17:50] Our Senior Climate Correspondent Karl Mathiesen takes us on a journey to Andalusia. In conversation with our Executive Producer Cristina Gonzalez, Karl explains how the far-right Vox party is using climate change to woo local farmers, changing the dynamics of Spanish politics in the process. Read Karl's full story, and explore POLITICO's new "Climate, Changed" series here. This episode featured music by Peter Walker with Jack Rose, live dublab "sprout session," and Sunsearcher, "Flamenco Rhythm." See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.