Season 2 of the ProducTea! For the first time, I’m joined by 2 guests and it’s none other than Teresa Torres and Hope Gurion We discuss the importance of leadership tied to people management and highlight the value of working from a unified knowledge base from C-level to operational teams. The conversation navigates through the realities of crises such as the 2008 financial recession and connected layoffs and how frameworks cannot replace effort or “putting in the work”. We also grapple with the dilemma of impostor syndrome versus the pressure of always being correct in business. Timestamps: 07:50 CEO: “Our PM’s are not delivering big enough ideas” 15:00 Making cases about  17:30 Tieing leadership to people management 20:40 Working from the same knowledge base from C-Level to operational product teams 27:00 When your company gets into trouble suddenly, the financial crisis in 2008 33:40 This is not the first recession we faced, layoffs are suddenly " 39:40 Having fewer people to manage might not be as good for your status but you definitely learn more 46:00 Thinking is hard and expensive, frameworks do not replace the work you have to put down 50:00 Impostor syndrome throughout our careers vs. needing to be right in business 57:30 Finding the one right answer, school vs. business life 62:00 Trends which Hope & Teresa are betting on: same old but changing what we learn in school Leah on Linkedin / Twitter / Youtube