Jason Van Orden had the first podcast dedicated to making money online and a huge business related to it. Then he walked away. He's still podcasting, this time with a show called Impact: How to Grow a Thought Leadership Brand and Business. Why make the jump? How do you make the jump? When do you know it's time to move forward to something new? We talk about these things and more on this episode of RED Podcast.   Help Your Expert Friends Build an Audience... If you like RED Podcast, subscribe now (it's free) and you'll never miss an episode. And if you really like RED, I'd appreciate you telling a friend (maybe even two). Click the icon below to listen.