David Holmgren is the co-originator of Permaculture, self-aware contrarian and contemplator of everything.  I'm lucky enough to be part of his extended household, so rather than shooting the breeze about the state of the world while sowing parsnips I figured I better bloody well get him on the podcast.  We dig into David's own internal landscape as well as the contours of his life at Melliodora, and I was especially eager to quiz him about land sharing and housing alternatives; prime listening for those in the debt-avoidant club.  Listen out for our new Reskillience segment: Word Association – which sees me peppering David with all kinds of words and phrases to see what he'll volley back. Such fun. And David said it's unlike any interview he's done before, which I'm taking as a good thing. Maya Ward [https://www.mayaward.com.au/] Permaculture principle #8 – Integrate rather than segregate [https://permacultureprinciples.com/permaculture-principles/_8/] Bill Mollison [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Mollison] Edges talk given by David in Lisbon [https://holmgren.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Lisbon-Triennale-_David-Holmgren.pdf] Permaculture principle #11 – Use edges and value the marginal [https://permacultureprinciples.com/permaculture-principles/_11/] David Holmgren's collected essays [https://store.holmgren.com.au/product/collected-writings/?_ga=2.237338374.783781105.1707176036-1460313814.1705268350&pk_vid=41ffbe2afa9751241707255970fcb353] Essay ~ Pandemic brooding [https://holmgren.com.au/writing/pandemic-brooding/] Essay ~ Crash on Demand  [https://holmgren.com.au/writing/crash-demand/] Essay ~ The Apology [https://holmgren.com.au/writing/the-apology-from-baby-boomers-to-the-handicapped-generations/] Book ~ The Golden Calm by M.M. Kaye [https://archive.org/details/goldencalmenglis00bayl] Melliodora property [https://holmgren.com.au/melliodora/] EcoBurbia [https://ecoburbia.com.au/] Ivan Illich [https://www.theguardian.com/news/2002/dec/09/guardianobituaries.highereducation] German Permaculture Academy [https://permakultur-campus.de/] Call of the Reed Warbler ~ Charles Massey [https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/call-of-the-reed-warbler/] RetroSuburbia Chapter #25: Changing Habits for Self-Reliance + Resilience [https://retrosuburbia.com/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2020/08/Chapter-25-Changing-Habits-for-Self-Reliance-and-Resilience-RetroSuburbia-.pdf] Book ~ RetroSuburbia: The Downshifter's Guide to a Resilient Future [https://retrosuburbia.com/] ~ David Holmgren eBook ~ Trees on the Treeless Plains [https://store.holmgren.com.au/product/treeless-plains/] ~ David Holmgren Permaculture events + workshops [https://holmgren.com.au/permaculture-events/]