Ali was from London but now lives in Maryland We talk about how she got into the business of dog training, which has a little something to do with her German Shepherd cross Indie. We talk about the widespread misunderstanding that all dogs should love all dogs and I may or may not tell an anecdote of me hugging a stranger to try and show them that they wouldn’t appreciate being crowded either. Spoiler alert: it didn’t work.   Ali also explains something that I think is amazing: She tells new clients to first take a break from everything (like training) for a week or so, so they can reconnect with all the reasons why they love their dog in the first place. Another tough nut to crack for most of us is that of questioning authority. Ali had fewer difficulties there as asking “Why?” comes naturally to her. My hope is that by listening to Ali talk, more people will feel free to do the same.  Ali’s training philosophy is that she wants to provide people with the skills that allow them to be able to tackle possible future setbacks, since it serves us well to take into account that your anxious dog will probably keep showing some anxiety from time to time, despite all the training effort you put in. Speaking of training and being a trainer, working 80 hours a week is no exception in the dog world and at first it wasn’t for Ali either. We talk about all things dog professional: The emotional burden of being a dog trainer, the taking on the setback and emotions of your clients, not earning enough to make a living, and giving away a part of you every time so that there’s less and less of you to go around.   So, how did she manage to find that elusive work-life balance? Upon moving to the USA she completely restructured her business and she explains what that looks like. Her advice to aspiring dog trainers: Don’t try to be everything to all people.   And finally, there’s Ali’s summary of her thoughts on expectation, frustration and celebration. It’s so on point, that I would be remiss if I didn’t write it down here: Manage expectation, minimize frustration, maximize celebration Links: Ali’s website: https://rebarkable.com/ Find Ali on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/re.barkable/ Ali’s podcast “Ask Ali” on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/ask-ali-a-professional-dog-trainer-answers-your-dog/id1586671078 and on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/49evBFpTbFUdOakjRA6FTV?si=21ad9666aa1d4e27 Email her: woof @ rebarkable.com EPIDOSE WEBSITE: https://kajsavanoverbeek.com/029--ali--indie-on-becoming-and-being-a-dog-trainer-and-not-burning-out/