Secession Podcast: Members is a series of conversations featuring members of the Secession. This episode is a conversation between the former and first female president of Secession Barbara Holub and the curator Rainer Fuchs. It was recorded on December 13, 2022. Barbara Holub lives and works in Vienna. Following her studies in architecture at the Technical University of Stuttgart, Holub developed a socio-politically engaged art practice. In 1999 she founded the collective transparadiso with Paul Rajakovics, which operates at the interface of art, architecture and urban intervention. From 2006 to 2007 Barbara Holub was president of the Secession. Since 1997, Holub has taught at the UIC/ School of Art and Design, Chicago, at the Vienna University of Technology, f+f School of Design and Media Design, Zurich, and the Universidad Católica, Valparaíso in Chile, among others. She has been a visiting professor at the University of Applied Arts Vienna, where she is currently a Senior Lecturer. She is a member of the editorial board of the journal dérive and a partner in the EU project SPACEX. Barbara Holub has been awarded numerous prizes (including the Austrian Art Prize, 2018) and has been part of international juries and advisory boards. In 2022, she most recently published the book Silent Activism. Rainer Fuchs (b. 1959 in Judenburg) studied art history, history, and philosophy in Graz. Since 1991, he has been the chief curator at mumok - Museum of Modern Art Foundation Ludwig Vienna. Past exhibitions include: Exhibition, 1994; Self Construction, 1996; Felix Gonzalez-Torres, 1998; Lois Weinberger, 1999; Öffentliche Rituale – Video/Kunst aus Polen, 2003; John Baldessari, 2005; Ryan Gander, 2006; Keren Cytter, 2007; Mind Expander, 2008; Painting: Process and Expansion, 2010; Aktionsraum 1, 2011; Dan Flavin 2012, Poetry of Reduction, 2012; Marge Monko, 2013; Space and Reality, 2014; Pakui Hardware, 2016, Nikita Kadan, 2017, Natural Histories – Traces of the Political, 2017; Ingeborg Strobl, 2020; Emília Rigova, 2022; On Stage, 2023.  Publikationen und Vorträge zur Kunst seit der Moderne. He has published publications and given lectures on art since the modern era. The Dorotheum is the exclusive sponsor of the Secession Podcast. Jingle: Hui Ye with an excerpt from Combat of dreams for string quartet and audio feed (2016, Christine Lavant Quartett) by Alexander J. Eberhard Editing Director & Editor: Christian Lübbert Programmed by the board of the SecessionProduced by Christian Lübbert