Skaana (@Skaanapod) host Mark Leiren-Young (@leirenyoung) talks sharks, Sharkwater (@teamsharkwater) and politics with Joseph Planta (@Planta) on a special shared episode with Planta On the Line @TheCommentary.ca Skaana podcasts connect you to news and experts and their discussions about environments, oceans, and orcas. * Join the Pod......https://www.patreon.com/mobydoll * Spotify...............www.bit.ly/spotify-skaana * Apple Podcasts.........www.skaana.ca * The Orca Bites Podcast (on anchor).........www.orcabites.com - * Skaana home......www.skaana.org * Skaana on Medium......www.orcatales.com * Our Latest Orca Videos...www.jpod.news - * Facebook............https://www.facebook.com/skaanapod/ * Twitter...............https://twitter.com/leirenyoung * Instagram............https://www.instagram.com/skaanapod/ Support Our Guest * http://www.thecommentary.ca Books on Amazon and Classes **Amazon links are affiliate links and support our podcast, thanks for clicking! * Sharks Forever: The Mystery and History of the Planet’s Perfect Predator: https://amzn.to/3DkVyoo * The Killer Whale Who Changed the World… http://amzn.to/2pRNU1q *   Orcas Everywhere… http://www.orcaseverywhere.com *   Paint the Ocean You Wish to See with Rayne Ellycrys Benu… https://orcapaint.net *   The Force of Doubt by Rayne Ellycrys Benu... https://books2read.com/forceofdoubt Show notes: 00:21 Introduction 2:51 Joseph Planta introduces Mark Leiren-Young. 4:00 Why Sharks Forever is dedicated to Rob Stewart and meeting Rob in Barcelona 10:45 Why I call sharks “the perfect predator.” “They are eating machines… they look devastating and awesome when you see them hunting.” 12:40 The impact of Jaws “What is baffling to me is that this one movie - released in 1976 - completely defined the way humans see sharks…. every time somebody saw a shark it was reported as if aliens invaded.” 16:41 “One moose hit one person in Jasper? 'We’re going to shoot every moose in Jasper!' That is the approach to sharks. And I wish I put that analogy in the book… the government does not go, “it’s time for a war on moose." You get a bear bite you don’t go after every bear.” 17:20 “We’re not food to them. We’re a lousy food source.” 18:00 “Sharks just look scary to us - something about them hits us on a primal level.” 21:18 Shark personalities and shark friendships. 23:40 The dangers of anthropodenial and the term’s creator, Frans de Waal.  “When you tickle a monkey it laughs.” 25:47 “Everything is now eating plastics… humans don’t share. Humans just are not good at sharing.” 26:30 “The more environmental stuff that I do, the more astonished I am by nature.” 28:10 “There are almost always sharks fairly close to shore… they’re everywhere. We’ve all been really close to sharks if we’ve been in the water.” 30:00 “Roughly five people are killed by sharks each year… falling bookshelves definitely kill more people each year than sharks.