Author and marine conservation biologist David Shiffman (Why Sharks Matter) talks about Sharkweek, Sharknados, megalodon myths, Jaws and junk science with Skaana host Mark Leiren-Young (author of Sharks Forever & Big Sharks, Small World). "More people are bitten by other people on the New York city subway system every year than are bitten by sharks in the whole world... but whenever any shark gives someone side eye anywhere in the world, it's headline news everywhere in the world." Shownotes: 4:10 "Jaws has had a really transformative impact. For sharks mostly bad." How Jaws changed everything for sharks and meeting Richard Dreyfuss. "The movie is just so good." 5:05 "It's really changed the world. Before Jaws came out most people really didn't think about sharks at all." 5:56 “Spielberg has a lot to answer for here." 6:23 The Jaws Effect. "It refers to how fictional portrayals of a real world issue can affect how people really think about that issue. In reality." 7:36 Watching The Shark is Broken - the Jaws play - on Broadway! 10:14 On the impact of Sharknado! "I love those goofy, bad shark movies... there are two kinds of shark movies - there are bad shark movies and there's Jaws." And how Sharknado funded his PhD work. 13:18 "It's just frigging weird how much this goofy Saturday night basic cable movie has escaped its cage and entered the cultural zeitgeist." 13:44 "Here's a crazy story for you..." How Sharknado may have launched Donald Trump's political career. 16:04 On being Sharkweek's number one critic "I'm very critical of the dumpster fire of nonsense and lies that they show every year." 17:33 "I could rant about how bad Sharkweek is... forever." And how Sharkweek does nothing to help sharks. "Sharkweek and I are not besties." 17:48 There are more dudes named Mike on Sharkweek than there are women... even though in real life 60% of shark experts are women. 19:37 Great white sharks are mentioned in 40% of newspaper stories about endangered sharks - even though they're not one of the most endangered species... All anyone wants to talk or write about... great white sharks. 21:00 Getting people to care about the bigger picture..."One thing that does change people's minds is "yes, and..."" 25:44 Talking 24 and sharks. "All of the species of sharks in the world combined have killed a lot fewer people than Jack Bauer has killed on-screen. Not even counting his off-screen exploits." 26:34 "More people are bitten by other people on the New York city subway system every year than are bitten by sharks in the whole world... but whenever any shark gives someone side eye anywhere in the world, it's headline news everywhere in the world." 27:46 "Seeing a shark swimming close to the beach is not news. That's where they're supposed to be." 28:00 A toy story - myth busting a fake goblin shark. 31:18 The megalodon conspiracy! "They were very cool - but they've been extinct for millions of years." 33:38 The importance of public science engagement. 34:54 A new treaty that may help save sharks - and other species. Skaana podcasts connect you to news and experts and their discussions about environments, oceans, and orcas. * Join the Pod......https://www.patreon.com/mobydoll * Subscribe to the Skaana newsletter: https://substack.com/@skaanapod?utm_source=profile-page  * Spotify...............www.bit.ly/spotify-skaana * Apple Podcasts.........www.skaana.ca