Filmmaker Gloria Pancrazi (Coextinction) talks with Skaana host Mark Leiren-Young about red herrings, fishy fish farms, whale watching, whale saving and Coextinction. “Orcas are telling us something. They’re showing us something. You can learn a lot about the things we’ve got to do in the world right now by looking at these orcas." Shownotes: 3:35 Meet Gloria Pancrazi and how the story of love for orcas turned into a mission to save the southern resident orcas. 6:12 "A lot of politicians like to blame whale watchers because then they can accept a pipeline that’s going to increase tanker traffic by seven- fold... you can go on and on about the impact of the Trans Mountain pipeline and how it's going to impact southern resident orcas." 8:38 “One of the biggest points of the movie is that everything is connected... it's hard to pick one big issue." 11:50 “It always fascinated us how the orcas are telling us something. They’s showing us something. You can learn a lot about the things we’ve got to do in the world right now by looking at these orcas." 13:18 "They are each other’s home and we’re destroying that home." 13:38 The first time she saw a whale: 15:35 Working for Cetus's Straitwatch program in Canada and SoundWatch in the US and the challenges of keeping orcas safe from small boats. 22:04 Visiting OrcaLab. "It's magical up there." 25:28 The impacts of colonization and colonial trauma. 27:50 Where and how to see Coextinction. Skaana podcasts connect you to news and experts and their discussions about environments, oceans, and orcas. * Join the Pod......https://www.patreon.com/mobydoll * Subscribe to the Skaana newsletter: https://substack.com/@skaanapod?utm_source=profile-page  * Spotify...............www.bit.ly/spotify-skaana * Apple Podcasts.........www.skaana.ca * The Orca Bites Podcast (on anchor).........www.orcabites.com * Skaana home......www.skaana.org * Skaana on Medium......www.orcatales.com * Our Latest Orca Videos...www.jpod.news * Facebook............https://www.facebook.com/skaanapod/ * Twitter...............https://twitter.com/leirenyoung * Instagram............https://www.instagram.com/skaanapod/ Support Our Guest * Where to watch Coextinction * Official website * Instagram * X  * Facebook  Books for sale and Classes from Team Skaana **Amazon links are affiliate links and support our podcast, thanks for clicking!** * Audio books by Mark Leiren-Young (Killer Whale Who Changed the World, Orcas Everywhere & Never Shoot a Stampede Queen) on Audible.com https://www.audible.com/search?searchNarrator=Mark+Leiren-Young