Author and biologist Rowena Rae on swimming with salmon, threats to this essential species and their incredible resilience with Skaana host Mark Leiren-Young. "Salmon can thrive if we just give them a chance... if people would just get out of the way, they can thrive". Shownotes: 3:54 On becoming a biologist and leaving biology for writing. 7:12 Introducing young readers to the story of Rachel Carson. 9:20 Introducing Rachel Carson and the importance of Silent Spring. 12:20 Swimming with salmon. 14:07 Keystone species and why they matter. 19:oo  Humans Vs. Salmon; almost everything eats salmon  — salmon as “eco-system engineers". 23:44 How to save Chinook salmon. 26:09 The fish farm jail-break in Washington State. 28:50 On the resilience of nature and salmon, and why to have hope. "They’re tenacious, they hang on … salmon can thrive if we just give them a chance". 31:30 How we can help salmon. Skaana podcasts connect you to news and experts and their discussions about environments, oceans, and orcas. * Join the Pod......https://www.patreon.com/mobydoll * Subscribe to the Skaana newsletter: https://substack.com/@skaanapod?utm_source=profile-page  * Spotify...............www.bit.ly/spotify-skaana * Apple Podcasts.........www.skaana.ca * The Orca Bites Podcast (on anchor).........www.orcabites.com - * Skaana home......www.skaana.org * Skaana on Medium......www.orcatales.com * Our Latest Orca Videos...www.jpod.news - * Facebook............https://www.facebook.com/skaanapod/ * Twitter...............https://twitter.com/leirenyoung * Instagram............https://www.instagram.com/skaanapod/ Rowena Rae - author of Salmon: Swimming for Survival Support Our Guest * Official website: https://rowenarae.com/ * Twitter or X or whatever: https://twitter.com/rowena_rae * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rowenarae/?originalSubdomain=ca  For more on her books * Official website: https://rowenarae.com/nonfiction-books/  * Rowena Rae, Mark Leiren-Young & Nicole F. Smith reading at the Royal BC Museum - Oceans Week 2023 Books for sale and Classes from Team Skaana **Amazon links are affiliate links and support our podcast, thanks for clicking!** *  Audio books by Mark Leiren-Young (Killer Whale Who Changed the World, Orcas Everywhere & Never Shoot a Stampede Queen) on Audible.com https://www.audible.com/search?searchNarrator=Mark+Leiren-Young * The Killer Whale Who Changed the World… http://amzn.to/2pRNU1q *   Orcas Everywhere; Orcas of the Salish Sea & Big Whales, Small World: http://www.orcaseverywhere.com