In this episode, we deep-dive into the strategic thinking required for effective cybersecurity leadership and discuss the evolving role of CISOs in adapting to new technologies and managing risks in an increasingly complex digital landscape. Additionally, our guest discusses Kevin Mitnick's in-person apology to him for Kevin's hacking transgressions. Tune in to this insightful conversation to gain valuable perspectives on technology, cybersecurity, operational leadership, and personal growth.