Here's a tip if you're creative: keep your ears open. Stop to listen to the world around you. That might be trickier to do right now, but it could be on your lockdown walk, or in the supermarket or with your family. You never know what nuggets you might pick up. This is one of the gems we picked up from a heart-warming chat with US film producer, writer and actor Kyle Marvin, the star and co-writer of critically acclaimed comedy indie The Climb, which is out now on home ents and digital download. As you will discover, this was recorded "in the before time" - we chatted in a London hotel bar, so please do enjoy the clinking of glasses and background chatter.   See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.