Episodes
Are all type rules meant to be broken‽ We take you back to our convo about the pros and cons of challenging the so-called "rules" of good type design in this Rewind episode. We reference the type used in the credits of some films and TV shows a few times in this episode: Loki, The Favourite, and Deathstalker and the Warriors from Hell. Support the Interrogang and help us expand what Proof&Co. and the Interrogang have to offer! Subscribe to TypeCraft, our sister podcast, for hour long...
Published 03/07/24
Published 03/07/24
Where is all the artistic feedback that we so crave‽ Tech Master Andrew sends us back to our discussion from Season 2 in which the guys wonder how we are supposed to develop as designers in this criticism-filled world we live in. Support the Interrogang and help us expand what Proof&Co. and the Interrogang have to offer! Subscribe to TypeCraft, our sister podcast, for hour long interviews and visual companions from some of the industry leaders in type! Subscribe to the Weekly...
Published 02/14/24
Can you tell the difference between a font description and a description of a bottle of wine‽ Kyle was put to this ridiculous test with his type reputation on the line. Hear how well he fared in this Rewind episode. Support the Interrogang and help us expand what Proof&Co. and the Interrogang have to offer! Subscribe to TypeCraft, our sister podcast, for hour long interviews and visual companions from some of the industry leaders in type! Subscribe to the Weekly Newsletter or The...
Published 01/30/24
What's next for type in 2024‽ We're all about FUN this episode (finally), and with a new year rapidly approaching, Josh and Kyle look back on what this past year has been like for independent type and make some hopeful predictions for the future. It also seems like as good a time as any to clear the air and start fresh, so Josh tells us why he doesn't need your ampersand and Kyle will allow a free font, if only to prove he's not crotchety. It was a huge year, the universe of indie type was...
Published 12/27/23
Who will help guide Santa's sleigh tonight‽ It's our annual Gift Guide review, and although Josh has had too much eggnog, Kyle the Red-Nosed Reindeer is here to help finish out your holiday shopping list. There are pencils that will encourage you to sketch more, apparel for your naked designer friends, tools for adding typography into your next woodworking project, and more than enough globby holiday spirit. And Josh responds to a fan letter with "Yes Virginia, There is a Perfect Font" to...
Published 12/14/23
How much typography can one person possibly consume‽ We intend to find out this week as we foodify some of our favorite releases from this year and fill our plates with typefaces, all in the name of being thankful for this year's font harvest. We've got entrees that will get you toned, starchy fonts that remind us of the power of potatoes, cool and refreshing display types, and sugar-coated fonts to round out your meal and your year. With such an incredible array, we enter the holiday season...
Published 11/21/23
Can an iconic brand also be a dynamic one‽ This episode starts with a good font with which to sell hugs, a new release that also serves as a marketing exercise, and two handwriting fonts, only one of which is born of hand writing. Then, Josh has to rant about how the ever-changing NBA jerseys are examples of poor branding, and even though Kyle may not exactly disagree, there's a chance the guys are simply behind the times. But at least they are partners in confusion, and we can all agree that...
Published 11/15/23
Did you know that font releases come in all sizes‽ Of course you did, you've been listening to this podcast for almost three years now. The releases keep getting bigger and bigger this week, and we start by pulling Gantry out of Ohno Type Co's dangerous Drawer, then we get old-timey with Ephemera Font's Osbert, followed by the jive-inducing Name Mono from ArrowType, and finishing with the behemoth that is Sharp Type's Sharp Grotesk Global. Now If we could only get Kyle to start paying...
Published 11/09/23
What are the best fonts for horrifying candy creations‽ This is our annual Halloween episode and Josh has the mad scientist credentials to meet the occasion. He and Art Director Ygor introduce you to the next generation of Halloween candy and the fonts they will use to sell them. The guys also discuss what haunts them in type, ancient incantations to rid us all of a particular typeface's curse, a font that is already filling its Piehole, and the reason Kyle is never stylin'. So grab a potato...
Published 10/30/23
Have you ever considered the font needs of monsters‽ It's a monster mash (or rather, job fair) for this Rewind episode in which we design business cards for all your favorite Halloween ghosts and ghouls. And, unfortunately, for Fluffles... And here are the fonts we recommend for the employment-seeking monster in your life: Oroban from Blaze Type Ehrie by Blast Foundry on Future Fonts Ohno Casual Light from Ohno Type Co. This Man This Monster from Comic Book Fonts Neptun from la Bolde...
Published 10/24/23
Why is this podcast so obsessed with the names of fonts‽ Because it's important, that's why! (And fun!) This time, Kyle challenges Josh to come up with his own name for fonts, both real and imagined, to explore the thought process behind how a font gets its name. Turns out, naming a font is quite a journey; in this episode alone we have Chonkboards, we get a little Smoishii, there are Spooky Actions, and even some Tragedy. Is Josh up to the challenge? Ah, what a Cloisterfuch... Font releases...
Published 10/19/23
How badly do we all need to expand our type vocabulary‽ This episode starts with Skeleton fonts, a typeface that brings the glom, creative pixelation, and the Goofus and Gallant of font releases, and then the guys rank the definitive* list of type words, phrases, and concepts that everyone should know. Josh just won't let you forget about Blackletter fonts and Kyle is all about those ligatures, but it turns out you probably won't impress people by being able to tell the difference between a...
Published 10/12/23
Need more type podcasts in your life‽ We've got you covered! We're expanding our podcasting output with a new show: TypeCraft! TypeCraft is a podcast mini-series with interviews conducted by our very own Kyle Read, where we will hear from some of the biggest names in type. Give this episode a listen to hear who we've got lined up for Season One. Then stick around to solve the mystery of why you've only been listening to Josh for all these years... Subscribe to TypeCraft to get the...
Published 09/29/23
How much could an agent help freelance designers find work‽ Josh and Kyle put on a suit and tie this week and tackle some business topics. Could tying cost-of-living data to font prices be the way of the future? And what would a world with type design agents look like? Along the way, Josh wants to start a giant game of font naming telephone and Kyle is freelance Robocop. As if there is any question who the weird ones are... Font releases highlighted in this episode: Doumbar from Atipo...
Published 09/20/23
How did all these foundries keep so busy this summer‽ There's so much to cover in this episode: the concept of social kerning, new foundry Adotbelow's explorations of multiculturalism in type, CSTM's Backslanted defying the laws of typographic gravity, Arbale serving as Typofonderie's Avengers, the hints of Helvetica in Typotheque's Münchenstein, the orderly bounciness of Smilena from Melvas Type, and how Colophon's Parent inspired revolution out of Josh. And you'll never guess which one of...
Published 09/13/23
Do you have any bad habits you need to break‽ Josh and Kyle are back in the habit of podcasting, so they wonder how much the traits you develop as you grow up might hold you back as a professional. You probably don't need to unlearn everything you know, because sometimes, your habits just make you who you are. Kyle can't finish what he starts and Josh's arm movements are barely human, but their neural pathways may not allow for much better... Ten points for Hufflepuff! Font releases...
Published 09/06/23
Aren't we all a snob about something‽ Well, we tried our best not to be too obnoxious about it in this Rewind episode about having strong personal preferences around type. Support the Interrogang and help us expand what Proof&Co. and the Interrogang have to offer! Subscribe to the Weekly Newsletter or The Concierge Newsletter for all the independent type news that's fit to email! Support the show
Published 09/01/23
How many stars does a sensible serif deserve anyway‽ We return to the pros and cons of a widespread font rating system in this week's Rewind. Support the Interrogang and help us expand what Proof&Co. and the Interrogang have to offer! Subscribe to the Weekly Newsletter or The Concierge Newsletter for all the independent type news that's fit to email! Support the show
Published 08/16/23
Would you snap your fingers and make 50% of all fonts disappear‽ Will Josh or Kyle put on the gauntlet, or will they send in the Avengers to save the fonts? Support the Interrogang and help us expand what Proof&Co. and the Interrogang have to offer! Subscribe to the Weekly Newsletter or The Concierge Newsletter for all the independent type news that's fit to email! Support the show
Published 08/02/23
What does it mean to pursue perfection in type design‽ It's summer so maybe we should just hit the pool, but we decided to tackle some big type topics first. There are designers out there working to make the perfect font right now, and maybe Jony Ive's LoveFrom Serif found it, but is it worth the time and energy? The guys think through nobility and ego and legacy and motivation and Dr. Seuss tubas and ultimately find it is akin to a quest for the Holy Grail of fonts: an epic journey that...
Published 07/20/23
Can you tell the difference between Artificial Intelligence and Human Intelligence‽ Special guest Lindsey Laseter joins the guys this week in Part 3 of our AI series to share her perspective on what AI means to the design world. She leaves the guys actually feeling all warm and fuzzy about it. Then Josh throws font descriptions at Lindsey and Kyle and they have to guess if a human wrote it or if ChatGPT wrote it. It was...surprisingly difficult and left Kyle thoroughly embarrassed. AI might...
Published 07/15/23
How can we keep up with all these new fonts‽ Well, we cram three weeks of our favorites into one episode, that's how! The guys discuss Commercial Type's Terza at Editor speed, the delightful refinement of Glazier from Positype, and the out-of-this-world influences of Production Type's Paramount. There is also plenty about whether NaN needed the aid of elves to complete the unconvential NaN Metrify superfamily, how Brutalist Aerospace seems like a fascinating oxymoron with the Air Collection...
Published 07/07/23
Does it matter where your inspiration comes from‽ We love hearing about where great design ideas come from, but the guys find that your personal design journey can be just as fun when you just do it your way and don't feel obligated to explain your creative decisions. That said, type designers can find inspiration in just about anything, which explains their love of time traveling fonts, creating "a better Plantin", and manhole covers. So sneeze into a napkin and see what font comes out......
Published 06/29/23
How much is Apple dictating the future of typography‽ Whether it's more 3D type, worrying about your font's weight, or making sure there is always a variable option, there could be big changes coming to the type world. Or not. We're not quite sure what the future holds, but at least there are exciting font newsletters to fill our time with... Proof&Co. releases highlighted in this episode: The Concierge Newsletter Support the Interrogang, if you are able, and help us expand what...
Published 06/22/23