Episodes
This podcast was recorded on 15 April 2024 as the second session in CLI’s Legal GenAI Around the World Series. In this session Terri Mottershead, Executive Director at the Centre for Legal Innovation facilitated a discussion with three amazing panellists from India, Hong Kong and Singapore: Komal Gupta, Chief Innovation Officer, Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas (India) Sebastian Ko, General Counsel, DFX Labs (Hong Kong) Rajesh Sreenivasan, Head, Technology Media and Telecoms Practice, Rajah...
Published 04/16/24
Published 04/16/24
This podcast was recorded on 12 March 2024 as the inaugural session in CLI’s Legal GenAI Around the World Series. In this session Terri Mottershead, Executive Director at the Centre for Legal Innovation facilitated a discussion with three amazing panellists from Australia + New Zealand: Matt Farrington, Senior Legal Counsel, Vice Chancellor’s Office, Victoria University of Wellington Caryn Sandler, Partner + Chief Knowledge and Innovation Officer, Gilbert + Tobin and Co-Chair, CLI...
Published 03/13/24
This session has become an annual event for us and, this was a BIG year to review the world of legaltech, AI and innovation. So much has happened since ChatGPT exploded onto the market in November 2022. Its impact has been pervasive, even in an industry like legal which would not, in the past, have been described as agile. So, what changed in 2023?  What stuck, what didn’t, and why? We welcomed back Caryn Sandler, Partner and Chief Knowledge & Innovation Officer at Gilbert + Tobin and...
Published 12/14/23
In this session, we spoke with Beth Patterson, the Founder and Director of legal industry-focused tech consultancy, ESPconnect and an Adjunct Professor (Industry) at UTS Faculty of Law. Beth’s career has the distinctive hallmark of being groundbreaking. The depth and breadth of her experience in tech and legaltech, in tech companies and law firms, as a consultant and educator, means she has a highly practical, global and unique perspective on where AI in the legal industry is going today. ...
Published 12/06/23
In this session, we spoke with Jean Yang, the VP and Co-founder of Onit’s AI Center of Excellence. The Center is a note-worthy offering from a software vendor. Jean’s journey to Onit seems like it was a natural progression. A former practising lawyer from New Zealand, she has spent most of her career so far (there’s lots more still to come) at the leading edge of AI in legal and, that has now taken her to Onit in Austin, Texas. Our discussion focussed on the application of AI in legal - how...
Published 11/06/23
In this session, we spoke with Michele DeStefano about how we can approach change, manage it and leverage it for the benefit of lawyer and allied legal professional wellbeing, for our clients, and legal businesses.  Michele knows a thing or two about this from her many roles as law professor, business founder, educator, consultant, and serial entrepreneur. Her work is visionary tempered with a strong dose of reality and, getting stuff done! Michele has been building the foundations, paving...
Published 11/03/23
It’s easy to get all caught up in the shiny new tech. It’s exciting and even a little mesmerizing, but the change it brings, demands and expects has a very real and human face too. In this podcast, Isabel Parker, Legal innovator, author and LawTech UK panel member closed out the Summit with her timely, important and candid reminder of the need to keep an unwavering focus on our humanity in a human+ legal world. This podcast was on Day Two of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 25...
Published 11/01/23
It’s easy to get all caught up in the shiny new tech. It’s exciting and even a little mesmerizing, but the change it brings, demands and expects has a very real and human face too. In this podcast, Isabel Parker, Legal innovator, author and LawTech UK panel member closed out the Summit with her timely, important and candid reminder of the need to keep an unwavering focus on our humanity in a human+ legal world. This podcast was on Day Two of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 25...
Published 11/01/23
So much has happened in tech/AI and the legal world in a year! Will 2024 see GenAI being more impactful, less impactful, the same? And where, what, how and when will it impact? In this podcast, Caryn Sandler, Partner + Chief Knowledge and Innovation Officer at Gilbert + Tobin and CLI Advisory Board Co-Chair gazed into the crystal ball to help you get prepared, and discussed what’s next with these legal industry gurus: Stuart Fuller, Global Head of Legal Services and Asia-Pacific Regional...
Published 10/30/23
We don’t have the capabilities we need to deliver legal services/products or solutions in a digital world. So what are legal educators doing about this and how quickly can they individually/collectively bridge the gap? In this podcast, Courtney Blackman, Head of Partnerships at Lander & Rogers discussed how legal education is changing in the face of GenAI with these leading academics and pracademics in law:  Aaron Baer, Co-Founder and Corporate Law Instructor, 4L Academy Stephen...
Published 10/30/23
Gen AI has reinvented the legal workforce. We’re seeing old roles expand, new roles emerge and some disappear too. So how is the legal industry preparing for this? What are the new talent strategies, capabilities, perspectives, retrospectives and yes, everything in between? In this podcast, Sam Burrett, Legal Optimisation Consulting at MinterEllison explored the new world of legal talent with these fabulous ‘people centred’ innovators: Jan Christie, Director, Capability...
Published 10/30/23
ChatGPT4 came after ChatGPT1 – getting from 1 to 4 and beyond took time, money, failure, frustration, resilience, agility, collaboration and multidisciplinary teamwork. These factors are all part of experimentation but they’re not typically hallmarks of the legal industry. So, how do we get from here to the new digital legal world? In this podcast, Michelle Mahoney, Executive Director Innovation at King & Wood Mallesons got into the nitty gritty of what experimentation means in legal and...
Published 10/30/23
What is the new and emerging role of regulatory authorities in a GenAI world? Who should be regulated (lawyers and paralegals)? Should the provision of legal services/products/solutions remain a duopoly? Should tech/AI competency be mandated? What does legal professional responsibility mean in contemporary legal practice? In this podcast, Terri Mottershead, Executive Director at the Centre for Legal Innovation was joined by this outstanding panel and discussed the role of regulation and...
Published 10/30/23
We’ve heard the stats and see every day the increasing and critical need to improve access to justice. There is much GenAI can do to help but it’s not a perfect solution, or is it? In this podcast, Maya Markovich, Executive Director and Co-founder of the Justice Technology Association and CLI Advisory Board member, analysed and discussed the impact of GenAI in A2J with an amazing panel of community legal sector, pro bono, and low bono specialists: Amy Burton, Head of Pro Bono, Mills...
Published 10/30/23
Will Generative AI destroy law firms? Only if lawyers are too fixed in their ways to see the possibilities that lie beyond who we've always been and what we've always done. In this podcast, globally renowned legal commentator Jordan Furlong, Principal at Law21, unpacked the challenges and opportunities of a GenAI-fuelled and human-centred legal world, one that is new, different and completely re-envisioned! This podcast was on Day One of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 24...
Published 10/26/23
Generative AI has dominated tech meetings, conversations, debates and demonstrations this year. We’ve been impressed, intimidated, inspired and disillusioned by the tech, so now almost a year since ChatGPT launched, is GenAI REALLY a game-changer? Is it the ultimate catalyst and influencer? Can it/should it sustain its impact on the legal world through pivotal roles like legal ops? In this podcast, legal ops legend Mary O’Carroll, Chief Community Officer at Ironclad, Inc. and Co-Founder of...
Published 10/26/23
It’s been almost a year since ChatGPT launched! For many of us, that opened the door to a new world – new concepts, new terms, confusion, frustration, exhilaration – a whole lot of stuff to understand, implement and manage. We needed guidance but the sort that shines a light on where to go and doesn’t require us to build the flashlight first. It takes a special combination of capabilities to do that, not everyone has them but determining who does, who doesn’t, and asking the right questions...
Published 10/07/23
The title of Marshall Goldsmith’s book (2007) “What Got You Here Won't Get You There,” has become a mantra for change and with good reason – it’s true – we can’t do things differently until we think about and approach them differently. That mindset shift, changing the way we think and do, has never had higher stakes or been more in demand than now, as the legal industry embraces AI. Embracing change doesn’t come easily. It needs to start early. It often starts small and grows. It can be a...
Published 10/04/23
Generative AI has changed the world of legal work forever! That’s a big statement but, we’re seeing proofs of concept daily in multiple services, products and solutions from all types of legal businesses. Those engaging with the tech are building the bridges from concept to implementation. It requires work and, in some cases, lots of it. It starts with getting everyone involved and, it won’t end, ever – that’s the exciting, exhausting and amazing part about it, this tech is very much about...
Published 09/27/23
No matter what industry you put under the microscope or where you turn right now, there are gaps in digital literacy. Tech and AI are evolving at an unprecedented pace. Legal has and will come under increased scrutiny to keep up to remain relevant. And what that means is upskilling or reskilling on a scale we have never seen before. The legal world is not ready for this, not by a long shot. We won’t close the digital literacy gap doing legal education the same way, in the same places – we...
Published 09/14/23
This podcast was delivered on 25 August 2023 and is the ninth and final session in CLI’s AI for Legal Series. In this session Lisa Crosbie, Technology Evangelist and Amanda Fajerman, Engagement Manager, both at Barhead discussed Driving your business forward with Microsoft Copilot. Topics covered included: What is Microsoft Copilot? Where will Microsoft Copilot be available? When will Microsoft Copilot be available? The need to be ready for Microsoft Copilot How to drive your...
Published 08/29/23
This podcast was delivered on 9 August 2023 and is the eighth session in CLI’s AI for Legal Series. In this session Julian Webb, Professor of Law, Melbourne Law School, University of Melbourne discussed AI and Ethics in Legal Practice – What you need to know now! Topics covered included: A brief background and context of legal AI ‘Old school’ expert systems Machine learning LLMs and LGAIMs (Generative AI e.g. ChatGPT) The ‘black box problem’ Accuracy, accessibility and transparency...
Published 08/10/23
This podcast was delivered on 2 August 2023 and is the seventh session in CLI’s AI for Legal Series. In this session Joel Barolsky, Principal, Edge International discussed how Generative AI is changing law firm strategy and business models. Topics covered in this session included how current generative AI will impact a law firm’s business strategy and business model for: Team structure, shape and composition Leverage, pricing margin and utilisation The dynamics and exchange of value...
Published 08/04/23
This podcast was delivered on 21 July 2023 and is the sixth session in CLI’s AI for Legal Series. In this session Ab Saraswat, Chief Revenue Officer, Lupl and Founder, Fringe Legal discussed everything you need to know about ChatGPT Prompt Engineering for Legal …. all the tips and traps. Topics covered included: Prompt Engineering Basics Prompt Formatting Types of Prompting Techniques, Tips and Best Practices Ethical Considerations Resources Best practices for prompt engineering with...
Published 07/23/23