Ever think about the Roman Empire? Well, Travis Van Winkle does—sometimes. In this week's episode, our hosts sit down with the talented actor, Travis Van Winkle, who also happens to be one of Justin and Jamey's closest friends. They dive into a wide-ranging discussion covering dating, overcoming trauma, friendship insecurities, alcohol, the Roman Empire trend, and the art of embracing life's imperfect timing. When he's not gracing the screen, Travis Van Winkle devotes much of his time to his role as a Big Brother in the Big Brother Big Sister mentorship program. He opens up about his transformative experience as a mentor to his "little brother," Lyrik, and the revelation that he's more ready than ever for fatherhood. Travis shares his refreshed perspective on dating and marriage, opting for authentic human connections over dating apps while also acknowledging that the gift of marriage may not be in his immediate future. Later in the episode, Travis lays out his “curriculum for life” made up of the different challenges, learnings and lessons he’s gained along the way. And Justin and Jamey reflect on Travis as a close friend, sharing heartwarming moments from their 20+ years of friendship, including a particularly vulnerable incident that threatened to tear them apart early on. Watch this episode on YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/wearemanenough Sign up for the Man Enough newsletter to get full video episodes and positive masculinity news every Monday: http://manenough.com/newsletter The Man Enough Podcast is produced by Wayfarer Studios and presented by Procter and Gamble, in partnership with Cadence13, an Audacy company. Timecodes: 0015: Travis has seen Liz on Raya  03:37 - Introducing Travis Van Winkle  11:13 - Do dating apps give us paralysis of choice?  14:21 - When was the last time Travis didn’t feel enough? 17:10 - How would Travis describe himself to a stranger? 19:09 - Becoming a Big Brother changed Travis’ life 24:11 - Travis’s “curriculum” based outlook on life 28:10 - Justin and Travis has a “friendship breakup” 34:13 - Travis felt like the black sheep of his friend group  41:56 - Do you think about the Roman Empire?  49:44 - Travis is okay with not being married  1:07:20 - What does it mean to be ‘Man Enough’ Quotes: “All of us have some kind of callus over our hearts. And part of our journey to adulthood and to maturity is dissolving that callus.” - Travis Van Winkle “I think being genuine is my superpower” - Travis Van Winkle “I just want to apprentice people on how to love me and in return, I want to be apprenticed on how to love you. “ - Travis Van Winkle “I'm 40 and I'm single and I don't shame that…just because I'm not married doesn't mean I haven't experienced the same amount of depth and love that marriages have.” - Travis Van Winkle  Support Man Enough Man Enough Newsletter: https://manenough.com/newsletter Man Enough book: https://manenough.com/books Boys Will Be Human book: https://boyswillbehuman.com  Follow The Hosts Justin Baldoni https://instagram.com/justinbaldoni https://www.tiktok.com/@justinbaldoni https://facebook.com/justinbaldoni https://twitter.com/justinbaldoni Text Justin: +1 (310) 845-6909 Liz Plank https://instagram.com/feministabulous https://tiktok.com/@lizplank https://facebook.com/feministabulous https://twitter.com/feministabulous http://www.elizabethplank.com/ Jamey Heath  https://instagram.com/jamey_heath_ https://tiktok.com/@jameyheath https://twitter.com/jamey_heath_ https://facebook.com/jameyjaz http://www.jameyheath.com/ #boys #men #masculinity #manenough #healing #friendships #dating #datingapps #marriage #romanempire #mentorship #bigbrother #acting #sober  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices