On Episode 5 I had a bit of a career pinch me moment, and I think you can tell at the start of this interview just how secretly excited I am. Whilst staying in The Holmes Hotel in London THE Samantha Chapman came to visit little old me - in fact she traveled 3 hours from Norwich, which I'm eternally grateful for. Sam was one of the pioneers of beauty Youtube, and is up there with the Make Up Artist greats - she certainly inspired my original career path as an MUA. We dive straight into what it was like growing a community online whilst also battling depression behind closed doors, working with Sam's sibling Nic Chapman, and moving from Pixiwoo to Real Techniques and beyond. This is a jam packed chat filled with words of wisdom, hints of sarcasm, candid charisma and honesty. Sam offers opinions on the world of photography, lighting, editing, fillers, filters, and handling even handling hate online negativity. We also discuss finding freedom from your career, what make up really means to Sam, parenthood and the products you need in your make up bag.Join TOSOP https://theothersideofperfect.com/Sam Chapman https://www.instagram.com/samchapman/Holmes Hotel https://www.holmeshotel.com/Sponsor https://www.cleancutmeals.ie/ Shoutout to Holmes Hotel for allowing us record for a couple of days in London. Thank you to the sponsors of this episode and Series 2, Ireland's leading meal prep provider, Clean Cut Meals, who are offering 20% off their meals if you use the code 'JOANNE20'.