In the third episode of the podcast’s conversation series, Michele Roberts, the first woman to head a major professional sports union in North America, talks to Emily Bazelon, a journalist and lawyer by training, about making it in the male-dominated world of law. They discuss how they learned of gender-based pay differences in the law field, what it’s like to be the only woman in the room, and the importance of finding deeper reasons to do the work you do, regardless of how much money you make.