In this episode, we talk with Pete Brook about images of incarceration, and his thoughts on photo ethics more broadly. He shares how he first came to learn about mass incarceration, and why he felt so passionately about the issue. He discusses his belief in the importance of formal education on visual culture, and his experience teaching both university students and men incarcerated at San Quentin Prison. From this experience, Pete describes some of the responses he received from prisoners themselves on prison photography.