Words are important. Collusion is not the same as conspiracy.
In the March 26 podcast "Donald Trump Just Made Healthcare A Huge 2020 Issue" Chris quoted Barr as saying that per Mueller's report "there was no collusion or coordination" with "the Russians." This is incorrect and the difference is critical to understanding the outcome. Per Barr, the Mueller investigation "did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government." 1) Conspiracy, in this context, is a federal crime with specific elements one of which is an agreement between the parties to violate federal law. No agreement, no conspiracy. 2) Per Barr, Mueller specifically defined "coordination" to also require "an agreement ... between the Trump Campaign and the Russuan government." Again, no agreement, no coordination. For both of these Mueller could have found any or all of the following without meeting the stated criteria. -An agreement to smear a political opponent isn't enough because that does violate federal law. - An agreement with a Russian oligarch isn't enough because they are not the Russian government. - An agreement between a close Trump associate and the Russiam government isn't enough if that person was not officially part of the Trump Campaign. - An apparent agreement with the the Russian government which can't be proven isn't enough because there's insufficient evidence to bring charges. In all of these cases most people would say that there was collusion even though conspiracy or coordination with the Russian government can't be proven. Words are important. Sloppy reporting leads to confusion and encourages claims of total exoneration.Read full review »
TWH1234 via Apple Podcasts · United States of America · 03/27/19
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