In this episode, relationship coach John Kenny welcomes Rob Wykes, a former charity CEO and railway chaplain, and author of the book "It's Not About the Furniture". Rob shares his journey from an ordinary upbringing in Coventry to his spiritual awakening within the church. They discuss the importance of looking beyond surface appearances and uncovering the hidden depths within ourselves and others. Tune in for an insightful conversation on the true essence of relationships. KEY TAKEAWAYS The importance of recognising and accessing the spiritual dimension within ourselves: We have to understand that we are more than just our thoughts and physical bodies. It encourages individuals to explore their spirituality and recognise the depth and uniqueness within themselves. The power of pausing and being present: Taking moments of pause and being present in the current moment can have a profound impact on our relationships and overall well-being. It allows us to connect on a deeper level and access a sense of peace and clarity. The value of self-reflection: Engaging in self-reflection helps us understand ourselves better and recognise our own growth areas. It allows us to approach situations with a different perspective and improve our relationships with others. The need for creating personal practices: Developing personal practices, such as meditation, contemplation, or mindfulness, can help us access our spirituality and connect with our inner selves. Consistency and dedication to these practices can lead to a deeper understanding of ourselves and our spirituality. The recognition that spirituality is separate from religion: Spirituality is not exclusive to religious beliefs. It encourages individuals to explore their spirituality regardless of their religious affiliations and to focus on the spiritual dimension within themselves rather than external factors. BEST MOMENTS "There's hidden depths and there's a story that's not so obvious until you dig into it."  "There was something more in the universe than just my intellectual capacity and my physical presence." "There's a part of us as human beings that is very often crying, 'Can you give me some attention?'"  "Being present is really, really important. It allows people to know there's something about them that is so special and unique." "Your natural senses cannot possess God or unite you to God. They can only reach after God."  Links: www.johnkennycoaching.com The Bicycle Affect: https://youtu.be/oO7XZGvdWno Relationship Video course and 1-2-1 coaching: Relationship Ready Online Programme - John Kenny (johnkennycoaching.com) To get in touch - email – [email protected] or book a complimentary call –https://calendly.com/johnkennycoaching/30min If people want to order a copy of the book then they can just pay postage of £4.95 (RRP £8.99) - www.johnkennycoaching.com/podcast-book-offer Want to be able to address the relationship issues in your life? - Why not book in for a complimentary call and we can discuss how you can get the new started with some new types of relationships - https://calendly.com/johnkennycoaching/30min The Relationship Guy Podcast - https://omny.fm/shows/the-relationship-guy Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/johnkennycoaching LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-kenny-coaching Insta – https://www.instagram.com/johnkennycoaching/ Twitter – https://www.twitter.com/johnkennycoach YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHTj9x6Tlo7lcIJITyx-tgQ Clubhouse - @relationshipguy I am John Kenny, Award Winning Relationship Coach. Coaching people to experience healthy loving relationships. Having spent a life choosing unhealthy relationships and self sabotaging my own success, I now coach people to live a life they choose. www.therelationshipguy.co.uk